He offers a dangerous and demeaning theology that has enormous appeal to men with fragile egos and weak self esteem. So really her story follows along these lines rather than what ol queen bee Stacy McDonald wants to jam it into: Luke 12:2 In a certain city there was a judge who did not fear God and did not respect man. Am pretty sure that the angels are, in fact, deeply offended by blatant scripture twisting for the purpose of shame and control. 452 following. Its so completely free from topical references and pop culture that I feel like everyone whos gonna make a Honey Boo Boo joke should do some penance and read Jack Handey., For a lot of us, he was our favorite writer, and the one we were most in awe of, said James Downey, who wrote for S.N.L. When I was head writer there, my policy was just to let him do his thing and to make sure that nothing got in the way of him creating., C.S. As I was doing research on this topic, I came across a blog post written by Geoffrey Botkin's niece, Katie Botkin. In such a situation, being able to accept your fate, make the best of it, and maybe even bond to the new guy whos carried you off to his tribe would be a survival trait. It's so beautiful to see what came from two 'crazy' souls. And enraging. Makes sense to me that Christ is most glorified when women shine as the GLORY (read definition) of adam. I dont know, maybe now/then. garb and playing their parts with aplomb. . One thing I have wondered is whether there are other women or girls out there beside this plaintiff? It does not matter if the leaders philosophy leads to the destruction, enslavement or damnation of the weak because only the strong survive / only the chosen get to heaven / only those in the group get the food and water and sexual opportunities. Yes! Id happily proclaim. PS IMHO Old Spice stinks no offense to anyone who enjoys the aroma. I will check in with his blog once a month or so. Celebrity is always a temporary fix or just a placebo, and the trauma of withdrawal will take place eventually. The more public the figure, the more public the rebuke. You wont find this broadcast out in the open. Yeah, there are always people who are secretly enchanted by the sociopath and will use back-handed praise, but it is important to clearly understand ones enemy. Its an affectation and it drives me nuts. Were at a nasty low but US Christianity is still here and itll pop up/out again. No matter what a victim does, no matter how we might see their behavior of somehow having put themselves in harms way they were not the ones who decided to commit immoral/illegal/unconscionable acts. I believe Dee and Deb have touched on this before some complementarians are now campaigning for the return of head-coverings for women. Like Driscoll and his clumsy Neuro-linguistic programming juju, language for him is just a tool to snow people. The patriarch from Moscow, Idaho chimes in on the Doug Phillips debacle. We have estimated His tinker toy words, designed to protect him, will entrap him eventually. ), http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blbordercanada.htm. I dont know who is lying; they both could be lying. Or perhaps they do grasp these factors and simply reject them in favor of their cherished KJV Blueprint. He does have at least one church member who publicly espouses those sentiments but the fellow has never held a position of authority in the church. @ Hester: MARRIED. He neglected to hear the church. His views on slavery speaks volumes. I dont know about the Texas penal code, but it sure sounds like some of his behavior was criminal. I understand that Phillips claims the sexual abuse never occurred. I guess for Doug Wilson slavery in the south can be called Gospel Centered Slavery :-p. Mr. C looking like a Southern plantation owner sitting next to the African freedom fighter is actually appalling to these eyes. At that stage she was right to treat him as a heathen and a publician. Since the narrow application of texts say you should not take Christians to court, he put himself in the heathen and publician spot where he could be taken to court. But based on the referenced statute regarding abuse of pastoral care and the nature of said power imbalance, I have some hope for the plaintiffs case. So glad that you were not upset by what I had said. I was enthralled with your whole comment. But that may not give her any legal relief any more than it gives others in similar situations with charismatic religious figures relief. Today's Anniversary. Membership Covenants Given that, either his sexual attentions were entirely unwelcome, or they were not. When isnt he? And lets not even get started on how much Wilsons logic in this piece could be used to blame victims of domestic violence. Sooooo, we need to learn how to deal with it, control it, and protect ourselves from the abuses which are possible due to uncontrolled aggression and sexuality. Usually means guy is so wrapped up in Himself (and his obsession) that his Cosmos has room for nothing else. Please modmail us with any questions. Douglas Rex Phillips, 55. At the risk of being nominated for B!t#h of the universe today, I just wanted to say to Joe that I think I see his point. Just taking her complaint at face value, it is plain that she is not taking the right kind of responsibility for her poor responses to Doug Phillips immoral advances. Is it shamal season yet? It is not a derogortory term. It obfuscates the real issues and alienates through misrepresentation the people that need to see the damage that their ideas have on people. Im not saying there shouldnt be some sort of restitution if her claims are proven true. But I do believe that the perp is building a trap, kind of like a child building a tinker toy house around him and not being able to get out, by his self-perception that he is a logical genius. Fundamentally flawed people can possess charisma of a sort, yet lack fundamental reasoning skills and discernmentand mislead many. Stacy McDonald (wife of patriarch James McDonald a colleague of Doug Phillips), chimed in on April 18 with these remarks: Translation: I pray that this woman gets justice, in whatever form she needs. I havent seen anything about the Phillips family or Vision Forum in a very long time. . So I imagine the subtitle under the picture of . Those of us who have consistently privately and publicly rebuked Doug will not relent. I certainly can appreciate and understand that those who have been tied up in this kind of a church setting have very strong feelings. Never thought of the discussion here at TWW as a Quaker meeting (in a virtual sense ), but youve definitely got a point. We at TWW should be honored that she has visited us here. Just like Casey Anthony, I believe that Phillips is guilty and it is not based on reading one article in the Huffington Post. But I would not stake out positions, as Wilson has done. Phillips' teachings have been criticized as promoting a biblical worldview that is considered by some to be oppressive to women and girls. If I recall correctly, Monergism.com shared an article by some guy who thought women had to wear headcoverings all the time because of the command pray without ceasing i.e., if Christian women are to cover during prayer, and Christians are to pray without ceasing, then headcoverings should be worn all the time. It is kind of interesting that more theologically conservative baptists are concerned about this trend: http://www.faith.edu/resources/publications/faith-pulpit/popup/text/print/842. Why should it be such a stretch for him to view the enslavement of girls and women as based on affection and confidence? On November 11, 2013, Vision Forum Ministries' board of directors discontinued operations citing "serious sins" which prompted Phillips' resignation. That also would be nice too. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Hello, and thank you for your submission. Well, if the law in TX states that a counselee/parishioner (i.e., Torres) having an affair with their pastor (i.e., Doug) is not legally able to give consent and correct me if Im wrong that that is what that clergy sex abuse statute says and thats what was indeed going on, then Torres basically was in the position of a minor in the eyes of the law and theres nothing Wilson can do about it. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Hes clever enough to convince many reasonably intelligent people that hes worth listening to. You just admitted your guilt and a ticket! He would be laughed right out of the room at a legitimate academic conference. That should also prevent cheerleading by bystanders. She told him no, which would mean she told him his fault when alone. (Answer: Why yes, yes he is.). I dont care how cute, how helpful, a young nanny was in the household, her presence there did not cause any emotional and/or physical maniupulation of her life. Probably wont until the Big Box is over. Wilson isnt laboring for an academic tradition, or the glory of God, or love, or out of empathy for his fellow man. Wilsons charisma carries a threat of violence which is titillating for many people, I think. Doug Phillips is not a banned topic. Theological views such as these were considered pass generations ago. Doug Phillips, 37. That said, however, even the devil can quote scripture and even a broken clock is right twice a day.. 5. on this account, Thayers Greek Lexicon has this meaning (among others): III. (I disagree about the wrongness of calling adults sweet. ie; Hey,youse guys, were proud to be yoopers, eh?. It is interesting that champions of integrated family church movement claim it minimizes risk of sexual predation. And, as predicted, all attention went to her. But something either gets lost in translation, or he really is just delusional about funny he is(nt). I have many friends who are far more eloquent than I am. Just even simple logic would say that if its a shame for a man to cover his head (Christ) because he is the glory of Christ and that would bring dishonor to Christ then for a woman to cover her head (male) because she is the glory of male that would bring dishonor to him! And yes, Wilson does use it in a mean way. My prayer is that Phillips will be criminally prosecuted for his abuse of Lourdes. His oldest son is married and has kids. And some of the key destructive features in the Erudite faction are: an amoral base where knowledge is valued regardless of how it is obtained, contempt, dehumanization, no true value on all human life (sort of people-as-experiments), etc. Not boycotting him at the moment. Even if she does not get monetary relief, I think she will get her day in court. In that case, Wilson sat on the abusers side of the courtroom and argued for leniency on sentencing. Does Wilson use this Redoubt term too? And once youve been catechized with Jesus-as-psychopath (and Hes Coming SOON!!!! And talk about culture wars! The couple is still happily living together. Great post!! His selection caused quite a stir, as explained in this article Gimme That Old Spice Religion. If anyone has fresh info, they are free to post it. We have long since learned that his elders were chosen amongst men who are unable or unwilling to hold him accountable for his words and behavior. But the stereotype also fails because a person who has no heart loses intelligence. Also, a public service to all newbies concerning Doug Ws words. Which is a good thing! Paul tried to reason with the ignorants with their own logic all which ways and they still cant figure it out. Yes, Phillip Schofield is still married to his wife Stephanie. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Another stream was more aggressive, agenda-setting, loud, and politically engaged. With both her voice and her body shaking, she called out the controversial speaker. Having learned what Ive now learned about Wilson, his views on slavery and the like, I now regard him the same way I would regard a Neo-Nazi or other form of white supremacist. Because he has always been in love with himself neither of these realities dissuade him from kissing his shaving mirror every morning and trotting out to spread his baloney far and wide. I know Ive said this here before, but am I the only one who doesnt think Doug Wilson is funny at all? 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Phillips and humility: two words that should not be in the same sentence. While I was looking for a particular fastener for my lawnmower, two older, gruff looking men were looking in the same area. So right out of the gate, the prophet and figurehead of the movement has discredited himself. Nonetheless we are confident and thankful that he will never extinguish the light of the Gospel which is proclaimed with every breath of the folks who follow Wartburg Watch. Some of these guys think that Christians should judge the outside world instead of confessing with humility how they have fallen short. This is true, at least, so long as the world would allow him keep his pulpit and halo. Fear is unpredictable. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Ugh! @ Muff Potter: Married At First Sight's Jamie Otis and Doug Hehner are going through the motions as Jamie decided to share a very raw update about the status of her marriage. 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