My wife, who never missed a service and has a better memory than I do, verifies this fact. While in a time of praise, Bob saw an apple tree in full bloom. She loves children and enjoys blessing them . The Chiefs Super Bowl win is 33 days into the year and 333 to go because it's a leap year. Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980s. ! He said, Oh yes, all the time. Two nights! Did I have enough time? And there was a man that walked beside me and he said, You can look now, Bob, and see and I looked down and my robe was like crystal light (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988. He has been a major influence behind the new revival through Todd Bentley, a Toronto style copy. It had really grown and looked a lot like Christ. e. Grandma Wynn, age 89; died January 12, 1978. d.His prophetic ministry is rejected by church after church, until he meets Mike Bickle. He was not, and I emphasize not, asked to leave our church. What's more, the prophecy said it would be a sign of a revival coming to America. Theyll birth the Church,but their children will attain levels of the Holy Spirit that they will not. If he is not the same then how can we know we are encountering the authentic one? The 5th edition of this book, November 2014, is significantly enlarged and revised throughout. Furthermore, Bob recounts that at the funeral God tells him that more are still to die, and then two or three days later a young man drowns in a lagoon. The following is a prophecy of Bob Jones of the great coming revival, recorded shortly before his death. Bickle and Jones relate the story of an angel revealing that God would appear to Bickle and his brother in law and associate pastor Bob Scott in the form of another person named Don through a vision or dream to confirm Jones ministry. It got dangerous. Bickle later related that during his trip to heaven Jesus commissioned him to be one of Gods new generals to lead his end time army. Id never seen one, but he looked as close as I could come up with. The Scroll Opened & Unrolled. Jones has been found to need a translator for his speaking even though it is in English because of his incoherence in communication (one translator for Jones is Paul Keith Davis of White Dove ministry). a prophet or apostle, there is a huge denial, out of naivety and fear, not knowing the Scriptures nor correct Biblical response. It was so bizarre I couldnt believe anybody could think of something like that. Nearly everyone one of these men are separately or collectively involved in the Latter Rain false revivals that have taken place. Russian Red Army by Bob Jones. He was not under submission to the pastor. And the women of the church began to look at me and said, Dont let him look at your husband. And the Church that is raising up in the government will be the head and the covering for them. The trail of the Latter Rain continues to unfold, even though it was rejected in the late 40s, its acceptance today is by those who are unfamiliar with its past. And so they threw Bob Jones out.(P.His 1, p. 15), THE FACTS BY FORMer pastor AND A CHURCH MINISTER ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT: During the time of my pastorate at Berean Baptist Church, a man by the nameof Bob Jones came to our services and started, without contacting or consulting the pastor, proceeded to insert himself as a prophet in every servicedominated the worship and praise time with dire and foreboding prophecies, supposedly from God, mostly in the flesh. Incredible as it seems, Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. At 5 o'clock on the morning of May 27 th the Lord began to speak to me so I grabbed my pen and pad and began to write. I say naaaay to this story, we have yet to see a talking horse in Scripture but we have see a donkey speak rebuke to its rider, Balaam who was the prophet for hire. Some are only about 10% accurate, a very few of the most mature prophets are approaching 85% to 95% accuracy. At the age of 13 or 15 (two different accounts), he supposedly is taken to heaven, and a guide who appears looking like red sunglasses, protects him from Gods glory, saying, this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest., 20 years of debauchery, drinking and demonization led him to Topeka Veterans Hospital mental ward, where, on drugs, this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. Everything about Paul was often dramatic! Yesterday a precious family member, Viola Jones, passed away at her home near Statesville, North Carolina. So I knew instantly, the first minute he prophesied his acceptance; so I knew he was the false prophetno question in my mind.(P.His, p. 14), Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Design a site like this with WordPress.com, In discussing Bob Jones disqualifying history, heres my comment and a response from one commentator, ALLEGED SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN HIS EARLY DAYS. We saved a place for you to receive our weekly newsletter. Hed say, They got me last night. A bolt of lightning. We do not solicit funds from those who do not agree with our preaching and who are not helped by these publications. Leaders at the infamous Kansas City Fellowship described him publicly as a "resident seer.". Many will say this not a few. He said, There will be a resistance and a controversy. your children will be moving into the ministries of Perfection . . It gave me understanding of what has been unfolding over the years. This is a red flag. Ismiled and said nothing, I even made several attempts at unity only to find that I had been prophesied over by another of the resident prophets. For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. Early years. Being interviewed by Rick Joyner , he says that God and the angels have their hands cuffed, and it's up to us to speak things into existence because God . What make this a concern is that Alice Bailey, a spokesperson for the New Age Movement, described violet (or purple) light as a catalyst for bringing about healing: [There are]four groups of angels that are bands of servers who are pledged to the service of the Christ [the New Age Christ, not Jesus], and their work is to contact man and to teach them along certain lines. In 2020, GOD TV reported about Bob Jones' prophecy on the Kansas City Chiefs. Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. During this time period there was a group called Grace Ministries' ministerial team which consisted of Paul Cain, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, David Parker, Jim Goll, Francis Frangipane and Mike Bickle that were of the former the Kansas City . , Jan. 9, 1901). At the Lakeland service with Todd Bentley, Bob Jones explains the churches future:What is the Lord doing? I am in St. Louis pastoring, and a man namedAugustine Aculacomes through town. 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a]respect. c. Walt Simon, in his 40s; died December 16, 1976. The show reported that Tiltons ministry threw thousands of unread prayer requests into the trash even though Tilton claimed to pray over them. . You know, you think that would scare hell out of them, but it didnt- -they started runnin to drugs and alcohol to forget it, and they went into immorality. And then willI profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me (Matthew 7:22.23). Joseph Jones -- Joseph Jones is a little known Kansas City prophet who was friends with Bob Jones and was involved in the early prayer and fasting that set the direction of the movement. According to her bio at the Elijah List, "Bonnie moved to Charlotte, North Carolina, in 2001 to attend Morning Star School of Ministry; in 2005 she met Bob Jones and they were married the following year (he died in 2014). Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. He said,When you go to Kansas Citywe went the next month, in November, and, I am going to tell you four things. Maybe Jones can point to the examples in Scripture where God used lightning for a fire. Support Here. AGE 15 LATE 30S TOTAL ABANDONMENT TO SIN/ DEMONIC VISIONS AND POSSESSION BJ: From 15 to in my late 30sI tried to find peace in sin and I searched for it in every bar and every fist fight, every gambling game I could get into. (F88, p.3) MB: The story is real in-depth.. .he really got himself into some heavy stuff of sin and just always in Street fights and bar fights and beatin people up and drinkin alcohol, and then some other areas toopretty heavy duty in (F88, p. 4) BJ: . All this to say that I Love you very much, Ernie, and Im behind you 100% in this matter. Bob was known as one of the remarkable prophetic . .And now my government is in place, and in a time of great stress I shall bring forth my next step, for Toronto was a step, Brownsville was another step; My next step will be my glory, and signs like you have never seen before. And it will start a Gods fire( Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, 1988.). In a television broadcast in May 1988 Swaggart had the audacity to boast, You are looking at a clean preacher! and I do not lie! (Don Matzat, The Same Ol' Jimmy,, , May 16, 1988). And the whole thing was shut down. So according to their end time prophetic army they have a base 10-20% accuracy level. Bob's wife Bonnie continues to expand upon Bob's message: "Did you learn to Love ?", and reveals the heart of The father for the coming . . , Popoff replied that his wife only supplied him with about 50% of the information, and the rest he got from the Lord! He has since gone to be with the Lord. His purpose for this people, in a hum-an sense, had some of its roots back in the hills of Arkansas when Bob was, ah, a young boy. Many Christians are posting about the prophecy again believing that these events are connected. The only fire I see started like this is what Jesus described when Satan fell as lightning. Dr. Bob Jones Jr., the chancellor and board chairman of Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., who in the late 1970's forfeited his college's Federal tax exemption rather than permit . Its not have the faith in God, it is to have the faith of God. Feb.4, 1930 - Feb.14, 2014 Bob Jones' death is being mourned by Christians around the world, while his life is being recounted and celebrated. You find out Who your Daddy is, you find out who you are. The Rev. We had a youth camp there. , December 2004). The cancer was trying to have me, but THE WORD OF GOD SAID I WAS HEALED THROUGH WHAT JESUS DID ON CALVARY. So we are too immature to have prophets be right all the time? But from that time forth my hands worked funny. published a photo of Hinn and Pentecostal preacher Paula White (who was divorced the previous year) walking hand-in-hand leaving a hotel in Rome. Many years later is when he entered into our world. . a leading member of that church totally repudiate the story as given. Its yea and amen, and thats what Hes calling you into: that holy place of divine health. And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. Bob goes into great detail about his life b. Bobby Conner was also on hand with David Hertzog and his wife Stephanie. . Your email address will not be published. I didnt haveever any trouble seem the devil!When theyd take over me, Id go completely wackyjust lookin for trouble. It was then that Bob gave a word about Kansas City. .until he met Mike Bickle. BOB JONES BEGINS HAVING TECHNICOLOR VISIONSOFTEN BETWEEN FIVE AND TEN A NIGHTAND SUPPOSEDLY HAS HAD THEM FOR 15 YEARS! Four nations would begin to have open doors into Russia and the fifth nation would be Sweden. The suit also alleged that the Roberts home had been remodeled 11 times in 14 years, that Lindsay spent nights in the ORU guest house with an underage 16 year old male, and that she frequently had cell phone bills of more than $800 per month, with hundreds of text messages sent between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. to underage males who had been provided phones at university expense (Oral Roberts University Faces the Blue Screen of Death, shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2007/10/oral-roberts-university-faces-blue.html). - "About" David Cloud And it was like Him and. And you can take a little of that fire and impart it wherever it is needed. I knew the devils real good when I drankused to party with em out in the beer joints so I knew the devil. Sometimes more, sometimes three or four I remember one time in 1984, Bob came to me and he said, Boy, I dont know what is wrongam I in sin, can you see anything? I said, No He said, Boy, the Lords cut me off. He said, quote, unquote, The Lord just shut the whole thing down. I said, What are you talking about? He said, He just shut the whole thing down. He said, I havent had visions in two nights! Two nights! One plague was influenza while the other was like influenza in nature. Bob Jones is remembered for his many end-time prophetic visions that have come to pass, including a prophetic word about the current corona virus pandemic given many years ago:". For example, he described in one story (detailed in Section I), how Berean Baptist Church, a highly respected Charismatic church, threw him out. (Testimony Letter 11)When we checked the story with the man who pastured Berean Baptist Church at that time, he told us that Bob Jones had the habit of; dominating the worship and praise time with dire and foreboding propheciessupposedly from Godmostly in the flesh. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. .very distinct from anything Ive ever heard of or seen, or boy, I tell you, it was totally bizarre, and most of those events run over an 18-month period. . I brought a 100 year prophesy for a long time, lets look at it. He was at warfare in the realm of trances and visions and there was marks left on his body. (Discernment newsletter vol.1. 2, p. 2). Bob spoke about deep spiritual things in simplistic parables but . on Jan. 19, 2006, but as of March 2006, Paulks television program was still broadcast on Trinity Broadcasting Network. Your email address will not be published. , March 1992, p. 90), he said there is no higher calling than ecumenical bridge-building. And there were billions of them. Men that looked like drugs because that was the god they served on earth In hell you will serve the god that you served on earth.. An analyst's insight Critically looking at the prediction, what is clear is the Bob Jones did not predict the opposing teams score and this very strongly decreases the probability of an incorrect intuitive guess (e.g. Christ gave only one legitimate cause, and that is fornication, yet the two said the split involves no third party on either side.. , Huntsville, Alabama, AP report, March 31, 1988). His gift was very strong and reliable yet Bob never preferred to be called "Prophet Bob Jones." He was just brother Bob. And the Lord was tellin me what they were doin. What bothered me the most was Viola and I had some blood kin in there too. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. Bob went on to say the word he was remembering said "a wind would blow out of Canada in the Northwest, and it would come and settle in Washington [state]. It was after Ford threatened to sue, that Crouch paid almost a half-million dollars to keep the matter quiet. Understanding The Holy Of Holies Inside The Temple. Instagram, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.instagram.com/p/Colp6OgrUu-/. And all of his weaknesses and all of his mistakes and all of his other things that are bad, (cause I got to balance this thing out to keep him humble), the Lord still used him. His 1st spurious encounter, is with an appearance, supposedly, of the Arch Angel Gabriel, riding a talking white horse. They just died one after another. Believe for more. Because when my hands turn purple it means youre getting through to the Royalty; youre getting through to the top. was the nephew of this church member. But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last daysbecause the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man! (Bob Jones, tape, Visions and Revelations, 1988.). Jones is claiming to have actually died and was at the judgment, his judgment. That is when really inspired-teachers began to rise up and show us a new understanding already of the written word. Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. It was like two big ole doors right here in his heart and itd be just that, and they was gone. He then saw people that Jesus didnt want who were on an elevator and an escalator to hell which was like a cold storage place. Jesus then commissioned him to touch the leaders in a new last days church so that he could absorba billion souls unto myself in the last day,Jones said. Dr. Bob Jones Jr. went home to be with the Lord on November 12, 1997. Man, you open the door to the devil every time. As they were burying them the Lord told me, This isnt the last. BOB. BJ: I didnt have trouble seeing the devils at alland this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. Copyright 2022 GOD TV, Simco Media LLC. The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. 4 1990). Will and Judy were dedicated Christians and were youth leaders. (LogOut/ This is actually grace for the church now, because 100% accuracy in this ministry would bring a level of accountability to the church which she is too immature to bear at this time. Still they wouldnt turn from it, so I went and warned a couple of the youth leaders twice. Later, Mike Bickle stated publicly that he had promoted Jones improperly. You find out what your blood is and what you can do.Bob Jones 2/95 Vancouver, Canada Vineyard, (http://thequickenedwordcommunity.com/cgi-bin/members/cforums.cgi?forumid= 112372859729293postid=9990224019736 action=messagesthreadid=9990224019736). Jones believes a spirit named Dominus, is Jesus. I did caution Mike Bickle about the strangeness of the prophet at the time. At the same time, it was clear Paul was a gifted prophet. We are standing in prayer with you. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. Thats what the children are entering into: theyll have the Spirit without measure, theyll walk through walls; theyll be translatedeverything that was ever in the Scripture(Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations,1989, audio tape), Contrary to Jones spiritual elitism all Christians can come boldly before the throne and their prayers are ALWAYS heard and answered if they are ask according to Gods will. Mary Gaston Jones died on May 12, 1989 in her 101st year83 years after the death of her husband's first wife. YOU HAVE WHAT YOU SPEAK. It is apparent that what Jones teaches is inserting his own ideas into passages to promote his own agenda- Latter Rain. He said that he had heard the audible voice of the Lord about my life. Bob Jones went home to be with the Lord on Valentines Day 2014. In remembrance of his zeal for preaching the Word and seeking the salvation of . Prophecy Of Bob Jones Is Happening. We discuss how God led him to this decision, his thoughts and feelings behind the decision and we also answer all the questions everyone has about . Theres nobody in the natural that had a more integral role in establishing the foundations in that kind of prophetic way than Bob. Instagram, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.instagram.com/p/Colp6OgrUu-/. Bob Jones claims that when he was nine years old living in Arkansas, an angel carrying a great trumpet came riding down from the sky on a white horse and stopped before him in the middle of a dirt road. . The term "prophetic" never appears in Scripture, much less phrases invented by modern wolves such as "prophetic praise," "the prophetic," "prophetic warfare," "prophetic worship," etc. On the side leading to destruction, the people were dressed in whatever they worshipped as their God. The book deals extensively with the theological errors of the Pentecostal-charismatic movements (exalting experience over Scripture, emphasis on the miraculous, the continuation of Messianic and apostolic miracles and sign gifts, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the baptism of fire, tongues speaking, physical healing guaranteed in the atonement, spirit slaying, spirit drunkenness, visions of Jesus, trips to heaven, women preachers, and ecumenism). Way of Life's content falls into two categories: sharable and non-sharable. Bob spoke about some things to occur, and gave Mike a personal, seemingly, supernatural word of prophecy, that convinced Mike he was from God, throwing out all of the red flags and other warnings, embracing everything Bob said, and actually building his ministry upon Bobs revelations! Its called the place of divine health. 1990 s. In the mid-1990s, Bob Jones University launched distance learning programs through BJU Press, which benefit thousands of students from homeschool families and Christian schools everyday. Paul Cain, Mike Bickle (and others) are friends to his ministry and were involved in the prophetic movement that entered the Vineyard church under John Wimber and are now part of the new apostolic reformation of Peter Wagner who was friends with Wimber. (ROH, p. 6)And then he began to proceed to tell me an hour and a half or two hours, though I forgot the time, of this most unbelievable layout of visions that you could ever imagine in your mindIncredible, not like because it was so realisticincredible, like the first time you ever see Star Wars. You are also welcome to use excerpts from the articles in your writings, in sermons, in church bulletins, etc. No wonder you are like you areTheyve got you in the crazy ward anyway, and you truly are crazy. This is the Funeral arrangements may be sent to: Reins-Sturdivant 270 . Evangelistic career. his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. If you have marks on your body from sleeping and entering demonic warfare during that time you have some very serious spiritual problems. And in thy name cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? And the Spirit of Elijah falls upon prophets. He then threw an old bull skin mantle at Bobs feet. That was a disturbing word. All of these highly unusual exp.s, so far are not necessarily disqualifying factors, but need to be discerned, and are suspect extra-Biblical phenomenon. Bob Jones' prophecy. We had a youth camp there. No wonder you are like you areTheyve got you in the crazy ward anyway, and you truly are crazy, seems to be an echo he carried with him afterwards, as he reacted to and rejected correction by other ministries for his spurious prophecies. Rejection is highly dangerous, esp. I have, however, heard from quite a number of our people who used to attend the Fellowship. What? She said Bob was wearing a beautiful smile and the glory of the Lord shone on his face. We are only able to do these things by the grace of God working through the gifts of Gods people. Looks like we have our future all mapped out and Jesus has told Jones he is not coming for the church in the next 50 years. Add to thatthe funeral was held in my church; I preached the funeral message and gave an invitation to accept Christ, and several young people took Jesus as their Savior that day. (Testimony Letter 11), The church member:At the maximum, six people of all ages died over a 2-year period, from March 29, 1976, to January 12, 1978: a. Dennis Wagner, age 19;. This is right out of the Latter Rain/manifest sons of God manual. Is this Jesus the same one in the Bible? In 1991, Swaggart was again in hot water when police in Indio, California, stopped him on a traffic violation and found that the woman riding with him was a prostitute. How can any of this be attributed to God when Jones is so far removed from understanding the word of God, preaching the word of God and replaces it with new words from his mystical experiences that are not even related to Biblical concepts. 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