If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Hang Time 5.8 They were measured with GPS. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. That's what I think. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff 714 AP2 4-p As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. I hit the same. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. 915 FD Great read with invaluable data and information. 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 By Have a look at his driver and 6 iron swing, incl. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. I appreciate that. The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how And when it comes to how far Tiger Woods, arguably the greatest iron player of all time, hits his irons? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] They are clean and contemporary. Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] link to What Irons Do the Pros Use? [/quote] Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. What about the balls we use. [/quote] Have a look at his numbers. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Open navigation menu. You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. My average club separation is about 15 yards. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi any 7 iron data ? it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. Mike Austin Swing: When Does the Release Start? I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, 5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus [/quote] I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. I need to know few things before buying. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. Club Head Speed 119.55 I don't measure my driver distance either. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. See how The Honda Classic Justin - Michael Cooney Golf The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Absolutely awesome numbers though. TrackMan [/quote] 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s Shafts: Nippon N.S. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) Trackman Figures from Some Tour Players - The Sand Trap .com APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I don't measure my driver distance. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! For more There is the same classic stamping on the sole with the BV logo in the middle, SM9 written towards the toe and Vokey Design nearer the heel. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. Pasted as rich text. There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. Top 50 Player Guide. [/color] Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. When you watch the PGA Tour or any major championship on TV it is hard not to notice how far pro golfers hit the ball. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. 5 Testers Needed! It's not the length that makes a pro. What is the speed? Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. Obviously not. Howarth Golf Performance Studio | Facebook Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. Lol, so true.. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Smash Factor 1.475 Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? [/quote] I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Your email address will not be published. And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. I don't play professional golf. I know I hit the ball a long way though. Launch Angle 11.28 Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) Tiger hits his 3-iron a carry distance of 240 yards on average while his 4-iron goes 225 yards and 5-iron 210 yards. 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Ball Speed 176.38 Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. 8.5* Tour Issue 07 Burner // PL Red 65x WebReport PP - Read online for free. Tee and Approach Shots! It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. I should be getting more distance on this club head speed right? When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. Maybe 126 or 127. Shafts:KBS Tour 125 S+, Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) I don't measure my driver distance. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. That tells WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. Couldn't of said it any better myself. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? Club Head Speed 119.55 Display as a link instead, Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. Im wondering if there are outliers here?. [/quote] [/quote] 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Justin I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Carry Distance 302.9 In the bag I think the wedges looks great. Feel free toshare your thoughts and experience in the comment section below. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. [/quote] Does the AMA truly know how far each of their clubs carries? My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. Mail at your own risk to: Excel Sports Management Only 0.4% of the average male amateur population is above a club speed of 115 mph. By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. I have played golf for 22 years. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Dont think they ever release that stuff. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. And that is for the simple reason that pros will hit all manner of a variety of different shots with their irons, especially for their approach shots, and as such, they will hit the same iron a variety of different distances. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. I think this is very interesting but misleading. x]I]618nI9^R? But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. %PDF-1.5 Thanks! It's the short game. Going back to Torrey Pines South, that is somewhere between the Green and White tees. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. Your email address will not be published. Thanks for posting. Carry Distance 302.9 ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. Apex Height 112' 11" Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high 2 were over 320. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. I agree with you 100%. Or the public course in Lenoir, NC? It's good for some laughs. However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Your link has been automatically embedded. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young also his AoD on the stinger. Simmer down, all. [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. Hcap 5 will be around 68. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 Does Trackman update this data each year? That's what I think. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. Or should i take control on the distance i have? When it comes to how far the pros hit a 3 wood and the other longer clubs in the bag including their hybrids the distance analysis gets a bit more complicated because clearly the pros are starting to use these clubs for a wider variety type of shots than they do for their driver. IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Acting upon real data, not opinion, takes a giant step in that direction. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. Clear editor. [quote name='J.W.' The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] Carry Efficiency 2.51 The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. endobj GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. Have a look at his driver and 6 I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. By adding 10 yards to every shot hit by the AMA from 160 yards, the percentage of shots that would hit the green increases from 38.5% to 44.0% and the average distance from the target decreases from 71.8 feet to 60.6 feet. Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Hi Gerry. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6
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