Its work, which is a coworkers and customers and me place, and unless the friends also happen to fit into one of those categories I dont want to see them. Those good old days are likely to have sucked for people with anxiety disorders/other mental health issues/chronic pain/chronic fatigue. I was taken aback but knew she was going through a stressful time and gave her space. The big takeaway from this post is that a lot of preferences are situational and individual. For any other reason just tell the truth, tell her you want to watch your favourite movie with her or cook together or whatever that may be of interest for the both of you. Another general suggestion for times when you are trying to invite yourself over is _never_ assume youre dropping by their space, always ask. This is really a cultural/different strokes thing. Thanks for the reply, thats really helpful to think about. Werewolves not Swearwolves. Im firmly in the camp of food is not bad and I refuse to feel guilty for it. A lot of it probably is the presumption of intimacy of showed up at my house compared to showed up at my work. My bathroom at home is also the guest bathroom and I kind of want to tidy up slightly embarrassing but totally normal hygiene products before someone uses it? You can also drop a simple text letting him know you are looking forward to seeing him, to casually confirm the date ahead of time to ensure the plans are still on. You could for instance say, I would like to invite you over to my place but my roommate is not so cool with that . First of all guys don't smile to other girls unless they like them. Bye oops grab the dog please. Been there, done that. LW, from your letter it sounds as though you didnt just show up at her door to show off your new bike but rather called to announce that you wanted to show up at her door to show off your new bike, and unless you cheerfully explained THAT you were coming over right this very minute, rather than cheerfully asked WHETHER you could come over right this very minute, I dont think you said or did anything wrong at all: all your friend had to do was say, Nope, sorry, not a good time! if she werent up for a visit from you (and your awesome bike). Though I am just now recalling that in the small town where my partner grew up, just dropping by unexpectedly and saying hi is weirdly totally normal. Seriously. My mums completely different. All attempts to set boundaries have failed, and these attempts have actually led to her being punitive toward me for trying to tell her no or set a boundary with her about anything, and this exhausting, selfish boundary-stomping is why, when I do move away, which I have been trying to do for TEN GODDAMNED YEARS while very, very poor and very, very un(der)employed, chances are very good that she will be completely and utterly cut off until she dies. There's a lot you can do to improve your social skills on your own - I wouldn't have made this site if I thought otherwise. If someone in your social circle is throwing a. Yeah. Nobody dropped by after about 8pm without prior arrangement because the children were in bed there were rules. For me, its a bit like physical contact boundaries. I asked her something along the lines of oh gods, what have you been thinking of me these last months, with all the details and no invite? My mom, my sister and I had come to town planned ahead of time to arrive at their house and have dinner. It hurts to be the one being downgraded, but when it happens the only thing to do is respect their wishes and give them space. Im not sure why it would be unkind to continue to the conversation that was already going? So anyone else asking for hugs is probably gonna be met with side eye. And its a multiple-day drive to get to Vacation Placewe dont even have room for another kid in our car! Places like that are MINE, are safe, are meant to be shields against the outside world. understanding whether the feeling counts in reality or doesnt exist That is what constitutes the perfect level of family closeness in her mind, so that is how it has to be: Family is always happy to see you any time of day or night (no matter how much of a nightmare you are). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. But if the person being visited does shame-clean, it isnt about the state of cleanliness when visitors arent there. Ah, but would you just invite yourself in for pasghetti? And at that point, you get to craft your own slow fade, being really really busy when their requests are made. Surely thats just cleaning? To me it reads a bit like the way that some people think all eating is shame-eating: like, in an ideal world, we would all just exist on sunshine and oxygen, and would be beings of pure air and never need to wash our clothes or our living spaces, and any need for calories or the removal of dirt is something to be ashamed of. I can usually drop by before moving on to my next event. Midwesterners. That said, its definitely geographically specific as well as individually; I can imagine that in a suburban neighborhood like the one my parents live in, where street parking is free and widely available, parking and coming inside might be a nice thing to do (although its definitely not expected! What about a SO situation? I also feel discomfort from the other side, when Im the person who could have conceivably been involved but am not. My friend was not receptive to this type of hang-out (she is the kind who shame-cleans SO HARD, so I think an unannounced visit is a tiny version of Hell for her). (Very few Family have any known genetic relationship to me.). It's my birthday and I hope you won't be left out. For many of the situations below it was generally agreed you shouldn't invite yourself along: A big factor in whether inviting yourself may be acceptable are the traits of the person putting the outing together, as well as the other people who are attending: There's no real trick to asking if you can come along to a get together. Although I still would only do it in a more extreme or solitary instance, rather than a pattern of behavior. I am depressed. Absolutely not for me to drop by but also not for other people to drop by here. He hadnt received the email and was furious. I have been trying to explain to her that she cant invite herself to her friends places and she has not been really getting why. Tip #2: Plan a Dinner Close to Home or at Your Home. I was going to post something about how poly relationships can make this complicated, but your post points out that a lot of that really does get contained in two-person relationships too. I shame-clean in front of people all the time. Im actually good at reading body language and other social cues, when everyone around me isnt lying to me all the time. Thank you for this post! Hi, sorry our dog is all excited you are here (I mean, my house is my Fortress of Solitude, and I can be super grumpy if Im interrupted in the middle of something by my phone, but unless underlying issues are at play, even I the Queen of the Solitary Grumpies here am never going to reply to a self-invite with Dude, totally inappropriate! rather than just, Nope, not gonna work right now.) Talk about it with her if youd like; let her slow-fade quietly on out if youd like; find a new awesome person to enjoy riding with. *grrr* still stinging from getting stood up repeatedly by two separate people (for different events) last fall. Oh, thats a good point. No extras!. Hrm. ! and ive also been very upset when people just presume im available at any time, because sometimes it comes across as a lack of respect, like oh surely i have nothing going on and am just available whenever you happen to be around. There are people who use boundaries as a tool for good and people who use them as an excuse to be douche canoes. I once traveled to my old uni town to check out my old haunts (also birdwatching. It helps if you accidentally miss out on something or are late, because people are pretty forgiving of schedule changes and mishaps, but it makes scheduling things with folks whose social expectations are different a little fraught. I have a Master of Social Work (MSW) degree, and a B.A. I have a friend who clearly, desperately wants to be in my social circle and has tried to push the issue in a number of ways. Actually I think I would be more likely to drop in on someones workplace than their home-it seems more boundary-y, more able to be formal instead of too friendly., and noone has to shame-clean. Unsolicited doorbell Ill never answer but texting from the viscinity I feel like I can easily refuse, Sorry, not a good time, maybe next time or sure, lets meet at the cafe though, my house is a mess. Good one AthenaC! Applauding the efforts of organizations and individuals who are doing something good. Agreed, although as you say I understand why some people can avoid it, with the cleaning and entertaining. Then she's probably looking for an exciting night between the sheets. Of course all of that is also because I live in Chicago and we live w/in walking distance of each other and shops and things. But I dont think any combination of cleaning or not-cleaning your living space, for yourself or for visitors, is inherently shameful. Not saying you shouldnt ask, but be aware that its not always going to end in the clear communication youd like it to. I love being around people and socializing, but only if Ive had time to gain some energy/prepare for these hangouts. At this point I just put all the blame on my ridiculously small washing machine, and any time I dont want company I claim Im stuck doing laundry allll day so I simply couldnt possibly or no one will have clean pants. Its not Im coming to see you, its Im coming past you, and thought it would be nice to see you. Ive had people get upset with me before because if I am not expecting a visit/you have not called/you have not asked in advance, I straight up will not answer the door, period, end of sentence, unless it is an emergency of some kind. In one case we could easily made plans anytime, so dropping in felt like too much. I wish you all the best in working this through with your counsellor. Ive been the house that friends can show up to at any time. Everybody who shows up at the door is invited in out of the weather and offered a drink and a place to sit. If Im ok w/ them coming up, I will invite them (and they know it). When you mention your leaky faucet or wonky DVR, and he offers to fix it, say yes and. Perhaps the best way to do this would be to communicate that you are unable to attend, but are thankful for the invitation. Me and my friends have all spent a lot of time in mixed-nationality European groups, and this is a thing that has caused me and my friends some problems in the past: Thing you say at a party / pub to someone youre getting on with: Oh, you want to see that film too? I then, with friends who I had invited, discussed details of the plans and ideas and asked for opinions. But. Show up with boyfriend to events that are pretty obviously not SO friendly (girls only brunches/nights out) You dropped in and your neighbors offered you a Coke and you laughed and chilled out for half an hour and then you left. My narcissist mother apparently wore her own mom down so that she could just drop in any old time she wanted without calling or ringing the doorbell first. Word. Im hungry too. Usually the host says yes and then everyone else gets texted and comes early, and then were hanging out for 9 hours instead of 6 and its kind of awful. I hate to say it, but what if they just didnt feel like seeing you that day? This sort of thing reminds me that the only era for which I know there were clear and universally followed rules about this sort of thing, it was Regency era England, when people* would drop by during a clearly defined period of the day for a morning call, for about 20 minutes, and your butler could declare that you were not at home if you didnt want to see them. I am going to discuss fun things with family with other family, even though family event might conceivably include all family. I guess its not really shame for me, though? 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