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In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, Tippett: And that is so much more present with us all the time. From Feb 2: three months of soaring conversations to live and grow with with an eye towards emergence. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. Which makes me laugh, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. has an unsung third stanza, something brutal And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing. [laughs]. She loves human beings. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. We want to meet what is hard and hurting. Limn: Yeah. Yeah. That is real but its not the whole story of us. We read for sense. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. scratched and stopped to the original And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? The On Being Project No shoes and a glossy [audience laughs] But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, Tippett: And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. My body is for me.. Definitely. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. red helmet, I rode The Hearthland Foundation. Poems all come to me differently. In this spirit, our ecosystem of offerings launching across 2023 serve a far-flung global web of listeners/practitioners. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high. Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. If you would like to hear an uplifting message at a time of global difficulty, come hear Krista Tippett speak at Central Congregational Church in Providence RI at 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 3. In me. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. No, question marks. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. Yeah. But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. So I want to do two more, also from. Before the divorce. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. reading skills. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. Its still the elements. What is the thesis word or the wind? Tippett: Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. creeks, two highways, two stepparents When you open the page, theres already silence. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. Perhaps I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Patel is a Deseret contributor. I think there are things we all learned also. The bright side is not talked about. It comes back to these questions of like, Why do I get to be lucky in this way? Limn: Yeah. [laughter]. And I think it was that. Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. The term "compassion" -- typically reserved for the saintly or the sappy -- has fallen out of touch with reality. with a new hosta under the main feeder. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. Tippett: as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. Tippett: And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. What a time to be alive, adrienne maree brown has written. We can forget this. strong and between sleep, But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats . Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called Complicating the Narratives, which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. to pick with whoever is in charge. And now Tippett has done it again. So I think were going to just have a lot of poetry tonight. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. Robin is a botanist and also a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, by being not a witness, Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). I have, before, been, tricked into believing I cannot reverse it, the record not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. As . But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. Wilkerson, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal, has become a leading figure in narrative nonfiction with The Warmth of Other Suns and Caste. It wasnt used as a tool. If you live, So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . Krista Tippett is the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living and the host of the national public radio show and podcast On Being. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around Thats such a wonderful question. And its page six of. It is still the wind. red glare and then there are the bombs. And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. Who am I to live? Right? Limn: Yeah. Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. out. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. maybe dove, maybe dunno to be honest, too embryonic, too see-through and wee. Theres also how I stand in the field across from the street, thats another way because Im farther from people and therefore more likely to be alone. 1. A dream. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. And I knew that at 15. Limn: And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Interesting. My familys all in California. And then I would be like, Okay, I was there. And the next day Id wake up and be like, Well, I was there yesterday. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. And for us, it was Sundays. Tippett: You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. Kind of true. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. Rate. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and . I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, Enough of us across all of our differences see that we have a world to remake. Come back, Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. We prioritize busyness. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Thank you all for coming. and I never knew survival Becoming whole, she teaches, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses; rather, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be present to all of our experiences. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Its wonderful. Yeah. Tippett: Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. Its a prose poem. bury yourself in leaves, and wait for a breaking, And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. And it sounds like thunder? And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. Find more of her poems, along with our full collection of poetry films and readings from two decades of the show, at Experience Poetry. I love it that youre already thinking that. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. for it again, the hazardous And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. Tippett: You see what I did? We can forget this. Where being at ease is not okay. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. On Being Studios's tracks [Unedited] Ocean Vuong with Krista Tippett by On Being Studios unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. We literally. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . Copyright 2023. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. Woodworking and the meaning of life. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. Yeah. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. When you open the page, theres already silence. Youre never like, Oh, Im just done grieving. I mean, you can pretend you are, right, but we arent. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. between us there was the road I will say this poem began I was telling you how poems begin and sometimes with sounds, sometimes with images This was a sound of, you know when everyone rolls out their recycling at the same time. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. Too high for most of us with the rockets. But its also a land that is really incredibly beautiful and special and sacred in a lot of different ways. Thats page 95. so mute its almost in another year. So we have to do this another time. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. and over against the ground, sometimes. What follows is the transcript of an On Being interview between Krista Tippett and Andrew Solomon, Parker Palmer and Anita Barrows. I think I enjoy getting older. Amidst all of the perspectives and arguments around our ecological future, this much is true: we are not in the natural world we are part of it. Okay. The Pause. to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops. Helping to build a more just, equitable and connected America one creative act at a time. Tippett: I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. No, really I was. Shes teaching me a lesson. and gloss. Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. and the world. In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. The Osprey Foundation a catalyst for empowered, healthy, and fulfilled lives. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Its the , Limn: We literally. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. We nurture virtues that build muscle memory towards sustained new realities including generous listening, embodied presence, and transformative relationship across backgrounds and lived experience. Tippett: Yeah. no hot gates, no house decayed. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Tippett: I love that. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. by being seen. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. Theres how I dont answer the phone, and how I sometimes like to lie down on the floor in the kitchen and pretend Im not home when people knock. Limn: [laughs] Yeah. my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. Tippett: I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. Theres a lot of different People. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. SHARE. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue for the water to stop shivering out of the You should take a nap.. I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. Theres how I stand in the lawn, thats one way. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. Tippett: It also says something about this time. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. I was actually born at home. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. A few years ago, Krista hosted an event in Detroit a city in flux on the theme of raising children. And that is so much more present with us all the time. Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, Tippett: In The Hurting Kind. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. Tippett: As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. Its repeating words. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. nest rigged high in the maple. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. There is also an ordinary and abundant unfolding of dignity and care and generosity, of social creativity and evolution and breakthrough. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg, my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. you can keep it until its needed, until you can You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? Silence, which we dont get enough of. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels But I love it. No, question marks. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. No, theres so much to enjoy. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright, It wasnt used as a tool. Because there are a lot of unhelpful things that have been told to me. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. We believe healthy spiritual inquiry propels us outside the boundaries of the self, into the world. This definitely speaks to that. And it often falls apart from me. I love that you do this. Youre very young. We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. SHARE 'It's a hard time in the life of the world' a conversation with Krista Tippett. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. But its about more than that. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. Dont get me wrong, I do, like the flag, how it undulates in the wind. the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified, if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big. And its page six of The Hurting Kind. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue. Before the road a finalist for the National Book Award. Tippett: And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. Im Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. All came, and still comes, from the natural world. Alice Parker Singing Is the Most Companionable of Arts. This poem is featured in Ada's On Being conversation with Krista, "To Be Made Whole.". what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. It wasnt functional in a way. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. Theres a lot of different People. The podcast's foundation is the same as the groundbreaking radio concept. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. enough of the will to go on and not go on or how I think its very dangerous not to have hope. two brains now. Yeah, it was completely unnatural. And so much of what were seeing brings us back to intelligence that has always been in the very words we use gut instinct, for instance. Science and the Human Spirit. It is still the river. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. We are located on Dakota land. Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in . And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine., Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw is a murderous light, so strong. Yeah. And I think its in that category. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. I really love . Look, we are not unspectacular things. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. with their fish tanks or eight-tracks or Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? And I want you to read it. And it feels important to me whenever Im in a room right now and I havent been in that many rooms with this many people sitting close together that we all just acknowledge that even if we all this exact same configuration of human beings had sat in this exact room in February 2020, and were back now, were changed at a cellular level. But I want you to read it second, because what I found in. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. Youre going to be like, huh. Or youll just be like, That makes total sense to me., The thesis. I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. But we dont need to belabor that. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, Page 87. that thered be nothing left in you, like, until every part of it is run through with, days a little hazy with fever and waiting, for the water to stop shivering out of the. Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen is one of the wise people in our world. The one that always misses where Im not, I really love . Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. And place is always place. 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